Iv'e been tying on these 4/0 bad boys as of late. So far I see good things with these hooks. Heavy solid sharp and a nice base to tie on. These are tarpon hooks so for pike and musky they should be spot on. A quick google search will find you the best deal or have your local shop order you up some. I paid 15.95 for these and they come in a pack of 25. I stand by my pike flies and tying on a shitty hook aint an option. Give them a go and see what you think.............tight lines and spring is comming soon chuckers!!!